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#11 krazyminer

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 03:21 PM

Hello guys!

 

I am sad to say I have very bad news indeed! :wacko:

 

ORIC Manic Miner TAP with SHA1 checksum:

 

7875d03b37fbae562858ff58fb9e83302c2742c0

 

seems to be corrupted (or my "select room" hack could be broken!). I just practiced ORIC Manic Miner with infinite lives and I made it to the seventeenth room "Home At Last" (I started from The Sixteenth Cavern).

 

So the room 17 was corrupted and likewise are all these:

 

17 - home at last

19 - down the pit
21 - at the centre of the earth
28 - not central cavern
30 - amoebatrons' revenge
31 - solar powered generator
 

This is a horrible setback. I must try to find another TAP file and test with it. :(


Edited by krazyminer, 25 February 2018 - 03:22 PM.


#12 krazyminer

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 03:28 PM

The version I tried, and redistributed on my page, is the one downloaded from this page. Does anybody have an alternative ORIC Manic Miner version?

 

A clean original would be best, with the key code copy protection intact and a dump of the original color code map. At least we would know it is okay.

 

EDIT: I found one from oric.org, but I do not know how to load it with Oricutron. There is a file called manic_cheat.zip there and it contains different versions.

 

MANIC0.TAP is the loader for the MANIC1.TAP (original tape), I guess. According to the docs we should load MANIC0.TAP first and according to my understanding it would load MANIC1.TAP. But I know nothing of ORIC, I cannot get loading to work. :mellow:

 

EDIT2: Finally good news! I got loading to work, it was a simple error on my part. So to load the ORIC Manic Miner from oric.org with Fedora Linux Oricutron, I did:

 

/opt/oricutron/bin/oricutron --tape MANIC0.TAP

 

After that Oric Atmos emulation will respond "Searching...".

 

You have to press F1 and select "Insert Tape", then Choose MANIC1.TAP and it will load!!!

 

Note that this version is not hacked, it is the clean original, so it contains the color code verification. But no problem, you can get the color chart from oric.org too!

 

I plan to redistribute them on my site, too, for easy download to Fedora Linux Oricutron downloaders. Maybe you should grab those files to share, too!


Edited by krazyminer, 25 February 2018 - 04:26 PM.


#13 jetsetdanny

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 06:25 PM

The version I tried, and redistributed on my page, is the one downloaded from this page. Does anybody have an alternative ORIC Manic Miner version?

 

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but have you tried this download?



#14 krazyminer

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 06:33 PM

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but have you tried this download?


No, I downloaded the manic_cheat.zip from oric.org and the needed colour code chart. It contains the code verification so it appears to be a clean original without any cracker mods.

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 07:06 PM

It's good that you've found what you needed :).

 

In the TOSEC zip which can be downloaded from the link I mentioned above, there are two files which may be of interest. Here they are:

 

Attached File  Manic Miner (19xx)(Steven Green)(fr)cr F.T.Pirate-Prospectrum port.zip   19.85KB   16 downloads

 

Attached File  ZZZ-UNK-Manic Miner Conversion by N.Hawaworth (PD).zip   21.71KB   15 downloads


Edited by jetsetdanny, 25 February 2018 - 07:06 PM.


#16 krazyminer

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:39 AM

Yes, I tried room number 17, Home At Last, using the uncracked, presumably original files (MANIC0.TAP loaded first, it will load MANIC1.TAP). There was no corruption. I also tried one or two other rooms that were previously corrupted. They were okay now. So I suppose the tape files are good.

I would suggest removing the ORIC MM that is downloadable here. It would be pretty horrible if someone played through the first sixteen rooms only to find out that Home At Last cannot be completed.

#17 krazyminer

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Posted 18 April 2018 - 07:02 PM

Thanks, the extra caves look fantastic. I have been looking for the original ORIC tape (or disk!) release for eight years. No luck so far, sadly!


I found the ORIC Manic Miner original tape, complete with the colour code chart!

And using Oricutron, I have completed the first 22 rooms, but not in a row. I practiced each room many times. The most horrible room, in my opinion, is the Skylab Landing Bay. It is completely insane because you do not know where the landing enemies will come from! Room 22, The End Of The World was difficult too. It took me 35 attempts to succeed.

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Posted 18 April 2018 - 07:28 PM

Well done! :)

 

I have an image of the codecard floating about, but originals are nice to have to hand too.

 

Is the falling pattern in Skylabs random in that version ( I forget :unsure: ) generally in other versions there *is* a pattern / sequence / cycle (pick which you prefer to call it) that is followed. The best way really is to simply stay on the floor area out of the way if you can and watch it a few times.


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#19 krazyminer

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Posted 18 April 2018 - 08:45 PM

Well done! :)
 
I have an image of the codecard floating about, but originals are nice to have to hand too.
 
Is the falling pattern in Skylabs random in that version ( I forget :unsure: ) generally in other versions there *is* a pattern / sequence / cycle (pick which you prefer to call it) that is followed. The best way really is to simply stay on the floor area out of the way if you can and watch it a few times.


There is a patterm, I believe, but I am too stupid to spot it. So I learned one way to complete the level and always did the same moves until I made it. But I am unable to ”improvise” in this room if you know what I mean. I cannot figure out the pattern clearly enough so the only way is to do it the same way, always.

I intend to complete the remaining rooms if I can, but progress is slow. Big mental barriers. I have taken video captures starting from room 17, the first ORIC specific room.

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 11:26 AM

Kind of reminds me (of what you're saying) of Meteor Storm (or Meteor Shower as its sometimes called) in the BBC Micro Version here, that can be a bit tricky sometimes:

 

bbc_mm_meteor_storm.png

 

Regarding the actual Skylabs itself, I've compared the two caverns and they appear near-identical if not identical. :) I've had to make a combi-pic due to the differing resolutions so it looks a bit disjointed, however you can see when they are at the same resolution (well kind of) they are the same as such:

 

skylabs_zx_vs_oric.png


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