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Actually, D was a "Back Door", should have saved it for later. E is indeed "At the Foot of the MegaTree"
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Indeed, I suppose the Indeed, I assume the Miner Willy is on the left. 🙂
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Indeed, everything except D and E is correct. 🙂
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Indeed it was a Solar power generator, I myself couldn't depict it better! Next. 😀
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... and 6 more, just to make it faster. A. B. C. D. E. F.
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Two images of the same screen (generated by two people). I think this one should be easy.
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This is actually two pictures of the same cavern, generated by two people:
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It's "The Cold Room" indeed (which actually is the very first cavern if you count from zero :-P). I thought it should be quite guessable, "room" makes it box-shaped, and "cold" makes that icy texture.
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It's "Cold Store" indeed. Note that the the label on top of the store(?) resembles "LCOD", which I believe comes from the fact the the name had the word "cold" in it. There will be several examples of such rooms/caverns which have something resembling text which reomtely resembles the title.
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It's not "The Central Cavern", but it has something in common with this JSW room.
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Congratulations to everyone who got it (I added the answer to the original message). I think I'll start soon to post several rooms together, otherwise it will take too long to guess them all. But for today, here is the next room:
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I've added the answer to the original post, congratulations to everyone who guessed it right. The next one is...
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I didn't understand the hints except the ID, but ID is indeed the correct one! For the "Technician Ted 128 - The Megamix" reference, I've just quickly skimmed thourgh a walkthrough and didn't find the similarly named room there. (The only one that looked familiar is "Emergency generator", and the picture above is not that).
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The same as this topic, but for JSW. Neural network generated surreal images from the room names, let's guess the room. 🙂 Again, more rooms will be available next week, but here is what I have now: Any ideas? 🙂
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I think it spoils too much (which may be fine), maybe just INK/PAPER colors without actual pixels would be good hint enough.
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That's indeed the right answer. 🙂 I only have a high resolution of three caverns so far and the rest is low res, will get more highres from Digitalduck next week. The other two of three are harder to guess, so I'd rather post them later when we can already exclude some caverns.
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In the ZX Spectrum speedrun Discord chat server, Digitalduck has recentely tested VQGAN, a neural network that can generate surreal images from the text description. He did it for all Manic Miner room names ("Central Cavern", "The Cold room" and so on), and for all JSW room names too. Before I share all other images, who can guess which of the Manic Miner caverns is this? 🙂
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Although the algorithm is trying to generate the shortest time without any human limitation, the main motivation for me was to find strats that human speedrunners can use. For non-WRITETYPER Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy, it's turning out that everything is doable by humans, so fastest tool assisted speedrun is also possible to repeat for humans, in theory. For WRITETYPER, it's another story. The shortest route requires inhuman play, like switching room 20 times within 2 seconds, that's why I didn't focus much in that variant. In fact, I tried to impose some limitations like "switch room not faster than 3 times per second", "you cannot switch direction and switch a room at the same time", but the result didn't look natural. There were moments where the play was clearly not doable by humans, and vice versa, in some places the delay was too strict. But if there is interest in it, I think I can generate it, I should have the code ready somewhere. (And regarding the JSW non-WRITETYPER routing, it's a very long story, and it probably will take several pages of posts to write it. In short, i took many approaches to find the optimal route, and still couldn't beat humans in most of the speedrun categories. I don't give up yet though, and have more ideas).
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