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Thanks. Traveling currently so going slowly. Got to figure out audio also and I want to try create a screen joystick for playing on iPad without a keyboard. Yeah. Certainly looks it. Need to figure out Mac version though 🙂

Thanks again @DigitalDuck. I updated the code tonight and it improved several other hard to get items such as the item closest to the portal on level 20 when you jump over the eye at the end of the conveyor. I previously had to be very lucky to get that key without jumping back. Much improved!

That looks like the "Lost in a sea of 1s and 0s" level to me @Norman Sword. Seems like you have encoded and compressed things rather than the original attribute approach. Not quite sure what you are doing but it saves a lot of space! Thanks for sharing.

Wow. I've seen a video of CPL doing MM Redux previously and it looks amazing. I'm gonna have to try and get that going soon. Love the format. Makes it easy to edit and see what is happening. I never heard of Godot before so I looked it up. Seems quite nice. I'm not a games programmer so not familiar with any of this stuff. Truth be told MM in Scratch is my first attempt at a game since some of my spectrum basic attempts back in the day. Fun stuff.

I thought some folks might like to see this. My cavern format for the Scratch project lightly mimics the original MM room format. There is a bit less freedom in scratch but I'm trying to make all my levels self described and thus end up with something I can edit in vim before pasting it in to scratch as a list of characters. Here is what the first Kong level looks like without spaces and newlines removed. Currently the only special level is the last level (whatever that is) Miner.Willy.meets.the.Kong.Beast W.V.......V......W..W..........W W................W..W..........W W............I.FFW...........FFW W................W.............W W................W.............W WFFF.....FFFFFF..WFF...........W W.............I..W...FFFF.....FW W.FFF............W.........F...W W.I.....FFF......W.............W W................WFFFFF........W WF..........FFF..W.........FFFFW W........FF......W.............W W...FF...........W....FFFFF....W W..........RRRWPPWFF.........I.W W.............WPPW.....X.......W WFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFW ................weedy........1.2 ................brick........162 dotty........1.4................ plant........0.4stalictite...0.5 banana.......................... level8..........02.14.0.128..... switch..1.06.00.0.17.11.1.02.0.6 switch..2.18.00.0.15.02.0.02.0.6 Hbarrel.......0.01.09.09.14.7................1.4 Hbarrel.......1.11.15.11.12.0.11.18..........1.3 Hbarrel.......0.18.21.18.08.0................0.5 Vkong.........3.0.032.232.15.032.4.2.2.0.6...1.4

Thanks @SymbolShift. Yeah. It is not ideal by more than a long short especially anything data related. Actually your name just reminded me of myself and my cousin typing in basic games out of the INPUT magazine... Neither of us knew what the ':' character was called and we used to call it "red-zed" because of the keys your pressed. He used to call out the code and I would type it in. Good times.

One other question... I noticed this really cool version of the game called Bob "Manic-4-NOOBS" by @Bob The Polar Bear. I'd love to add those levels as a theme to my Scratch version as I love the colours and the execution of the design. I haven't played it but just seen the YouTube video and it looks wonderful.

Ok. Thanks I figured that must be the way it worked. I have been using scratch sprite collision detection from the Items point of view to collect so I'll have to rework that bit and do it from Willy's perspective and it should give the same behaviour.

Hi all, I never knew that Manic Miner was so popular. I have remembered this game fondly from when I was a kid and I bought it for my 48k Spectrum. Anyway, many things happened along the way as they did to all of us I am sure but MM has always been in my head. My son (7) recently has been playing with a Nintendo and I found myself wanting to show him MM. I discovered an emulated version in a browser and we enjoyed it. He started learning scratch at a game class recently so I thought I'd give it a go also. One thing led to another and I found myself trying to program MM in scratch wondering how far I would get. I'm a bit particular about these things so I wanted it to play like the original. Scratch is a very annoying language for this project and in a way I'm sorry I started it but I have to finish it now. I don't have that much time so its going slowly but it is moving forward. Anyway, I posted a few videos on youtube and "CPL MM" found me and mentioned this site. I had no idea that MM was so "active" and that there were so many versions and modifications. Quite exciting!!! I've learned a lot about MM along the way as I try to get different things to work. Some questions. Is there a list of semi-official names for the guardians on each level? I was trying to identify what the horizontal guardian on the mutant telephone level could be. I have called it an antenna so far. Its fun looking at the sprites in detail and recreating them. Scratch screen size is unfortunately fixed so I'm using weird sized sprites. Each of my cells is 15Lx16H. My current problem is the Return of the Alien Kong Beast, the banana under kong on the left... If you leave that banana until 2nd last, flip the kong switch to dunk him and then walk off the drop from the right to the left, in MM you can collect that banana as well as the other one on the way down.. I'm trying to work out why that happens as Sprite 7 (which is facing left and first sprite position in new column) has all Willy ink in the right most byte of Miner Willy. The banana ends up overlapping with the left bytes of WIlly's sprite but there is no ink in that half of the sprite. Looking at the code, it is looking for the attribute ink of the item to turn white to detect if Willy collects the item or not. So does willy's white ink for both left and right byte sides affect this even if there is no ink bits set in the left byte? I guess it must. Sorry, never actually played with this on an actual spectrum and on the emulator, playing MM, the key is collected before the redraw I think so I can't see it. Anyway - hello out there! Great to be here. There is a lot to read on this site... Oh. I guess I should probably post a link to my scratch videos so you can see how things look so far: