Diner and Mansion games

[Hervé AST]

Hello JET SET WILLIE,

Thanks for the development update.
Both of your games are already well underway. That's great news!
Are you planning on releasing one soon?
I think I'll be able to find time to play some of the designers' games. Your first game, "What a Wonderful World of Willie," will be on the list, along with Carl's "Ghost of Willy."
By the way, is there a thread in this group where we discuss the games we've played?

See you soon.
Hervé

[Jet Set Willie]

Thank you, Hervé!  🙂 I have been watching on development of your games, with an admiration, both for the ideas and speed. 🙂 

I am "planning" to release the Mansion game "soon", I hope I could concentrate on music someday. And get the needed answers for Hexing, too, when I am ready to start on that part. Otherwise it could be released as-is right now, just after Daniel´s playtesting and possible fixes after that. 

Yeah, no title screen either, I forgot to say that. The Diner has got it´s title screen for a long time. 🙂 

 

Thank you for choosing my first game to your playlist! 🙂 Thank you for anybody else who has played it, too! 🙂  I hope I can play other designers´ games some day. My plays have usually fallen on too short so far. 😞

 

About that thread, older members can bring you an exact answer. My answer would be, that it could be a good idea to write your text to that particular game´s existing topic in "Remakes" section. But are all of the much older games there? I think they are, but somebody else please bring the correct answer. 🙂 

[Jet Set Willie]

I also forgot to mention, that the ending of the Mansion will need a bit of Hexing, just a bit. The game can be played to the very end, but the game will not end there before that Hexing has been added.

  

21 hours ago, Jet Set Willie said:

The Diner game was going to be released first, but the Mansion has left it behind some months ago already. It´s not a problem, though, as they are not a prequel and a sequel, even the events in the Diner will happen in the past. You might notice some similarities, though. 😉

Even I said that, there was one reason, among others, why I wanted to release the Diner first. It has one effect, what I like and what has been put even further in the Mansion. It would have been nice if you could have seen that effect in it´s simpler form first as it might not look a much after seeing the better version first. Anyway, it´s an effect what no other Willy games may not have yet. When these games have eventually been released, I would like to hear if this effect is used already in some Willy game. 🙂 I would like to see how it has been done there. 🙂 

In the Diner, that effect is seen in the room next from the start. It´s a busy room, but you can see it happening all the time and by positioning yourself to a safe place, it´s possible to watch it better. 🙂 I have made it the way that it will look natural, same applies to the Mansion. 🙂 In the Mansion it´s several rooms away from the start, but it´s easily reachable. 🙂 

 

Edited July 4, 2025 by Jet Set Willie

[jetsetdanny]

On 7/3/2025 at 3:40 PM, Hervé AST said:

By the way, is there a thread in this group where we discuss the games we've played?

There's no strict rule about it. I guess what Jet Set Willie suggested - commenting in the topic devoted to that particular game in the "Remakes" section, would be just fine. I would add to that the existing topic in the Download Discussions section, and I would say that  it doesn't matter how old the topic is, it's always good to revive it to discuss the game 🙂 .

Games that are available for download on this forum all have their Download Discussions topics (these are created automatically after a download is added). For other games, if someone wants to discuss any of them, I would suggest just creating a new topic in the "Remakes" section, with the title of the game as the topic's title, and commenting. It will certainly be appreciated 🙂 .

[jetsetdanny]

On 7/4/2025 at 8:28 AM, Jet Set Willie said:

I am "planning" to release the Mansion game "soon", I hope I could concentrate on music someday. And get the needed answers for Hexing, too, when I am ready to start on that part. Otherwise it could be released as-is right now, just after Daniel´s playtesting and possible fixes after that. 

I am looking forward to playtesting both your Diner and Mansion games, Willie, and if assisting you with what you call "Hexing" (code tweaks) will be within my abilities, I will be happy to do so. I should be able to do it after I'm finished with whatever contribution I can make to Hervé's current projects, so pretty much after "Welcome to Willy's Fun Park!" and "The Temple" have been released. I hope that there may actually be a nice timing coincidence: that a time will come when you will feel the first of these games is ready to fall under my scrutiny when I'm also ready to devote time to it 🙂 .

[Jet Set Willie]

Thank you, Danny! 🙂 My "Hexing", in this case, means just, unless I had forgot something, that I will need to know memory addresses for 128 JSWED game. For a long time ago, for the starters, I had already tried to change the game over sprite for the Diner, the standing "Willy" sprite to another sprite, but that didn´t work back then, even I did everything the same way (at least I think so) as in What a Wonderful World of Willie, just like you teached me. (Thank you!) 🙂  I haven´t tried it again yet.

OK, there´s one a bit bigger Hexing needed for the Diner. It´s not needed for the gameplay, but it´s a nice thing to have. 🙂 I will have to read through Skoolkit´s and Z80 Opcode pages someday to see if I could get it how to do it and to see if  I can do it. 🙂 I understand the basic idea behind it, though. 🙂 

Thank you in advance for everything, Danny! 🙂 

[Jet Set Willie]

To let you know, during this summer I have made lots of graphic updates for both games. I will possibly do yet something more. Plus some fixes has been done.

The Mansion loading screen is finished and I have started to work on The Diner loading screen. 🙂 

Edited August 2, 2025 by Jet Set Willie

[jetsetdanny]

On 7/9/2025 at 8:44 AM, Jet Set Willie said:

Thank you, Danny! 🙂 My "Hexing", in this case, means just, unless I had forgot something, that I will need to know memory addresses for 128 JSWED game. For a long time ago, for the starters, I had already tried to change the game over sprite for the Diner, the standing "Willy" sprite to another sprite, but that didn´t work back then, even I did everything the same way (at least I think so) as in What a Wonderful World of Willie, just like you teached me. (Thank you!) 🙂  I haven´t tried it again yet.

OK, there´s one a bit bigger Hexing needed for the Diner. It´s not needed for the gameplay, but it´s a nice thing to have. 🙂 I will have to read through Skoolkit´s and Z80 Opcode pages someday to see if I could get it how to do it and to see if  I can do it. 🙂 I understand the basic idea behind it, though. 🙂 

Thank you in advance for everything, Danny! 🙂 

I will be happy to assist with anything I'm able to help with.

If it's a question of changing the sprites on the Game Over screen, it will be easy. 

I don't know what the "bigger Hexing needed for the Diner" involves exactly, but I will be happy to help with that too if it's within my abilities 🙂 .

[jetsetdanny]

18 hours ago, Jet Set Willie said:

To let you know, during this summer I have made lots of graphic updates for both games. I will possibly do yet something more. Plus some fixes has been done.

The Mansion loading screen is finished and I have started to work on The Diner loading screen. 🙂 

Thanks for the update, Willie, it's great to know both of your new games have reached such an advanced stage of development! 👍

[Jet Set Willie]

6 hours ago, jetsetdanny said:

I don't know what the "bigger Hexing needed for the Diner" involves exactly, but I will be happy to help with that too if it's within my abilities 🙂 .

I think it has been done somehow in some JSW/MM clone, I am not sure though. I think it as easy, as most of it will just need putting code to empty memory addresses. That "most of it" part is familiar to you, Danny 🙂 that´s another reason I think it as easy. 🙂 I think I could do it by myself, but it´s of course much faster if I don´t have to learn all of that from the scratch. 🙂 

I will have to persuade myself to start to test play and fix guardian routes in one of The Diner rooms. I had designed it the way the player will have to take time to see how the guardians will act together (like in many rooms in my games) and then take time to find out how it´s possible to get through to the item and how to get back. It was designed the way the player, after learning the correct way and timing, could jump through the guardians in a nice looking sequence. But I think most players won´t want to bother to wait that much and not to try that much, so I will do something for those guardians to make that part of the room quite easy. Perhaps I will have to make some guardian to still be animated but to stand still where it is. And perhaps to delete some other guardians in that room or to define shorter routes for them. And then try to think how I could connect many rooms together with just few empty rooms.

It has been nice to work on the loading screens to have something else to do at the moment than just the same endless "room stuff" for two games. 🙂 

Thank you, Danny, I will ask again when I have done enough graphic updates and checked again the guardian sprites, etc. and finished the Diner loading screen some day. I have drawn lots of things to that screen already, but it´s still missing few things. 🙂 

Edited August 3, 2025 by Jet Set Willie