Automated generation of Manic Miner speedrun/walkthrough

[crem]

18 hours ago, Spider said:

I did plan on this earlier but there were some time constraints.

BB: #870E = SP: #8714

BB: #8908 = SP: #890E

BB: #902B = SP: #9036

Works like a charm, thanks!

I've started calculating Amoebatrons' Revenge, should have the results in the evening.

[Spider]

10 minutes ago, crem said:

Works like a charm, thanks!

I've started calculating Amoebatrons' Revenge, should have the results in the evening.

Most welcome! 🙂

[IRF]

15 minutes ago, crem said:

I've started calculating Amoebatrons' Revenge, should have the results in the evening.

That's the one I hold out most hope for, as the 'Bug-Byte bugs' [is that what they are?] don't have those long, dangly tentacles that you get with the equivalent vertical guardians in the other version of the game.

However, The Warehouse's vertical guardians (spinning Software Projects logos) don't take up as much of their space as the Lawnmower/Thresher(?) things which they replaced, so there might be a higher score to be acquired there too?

(Then again, it's possible that you don't find an improvement in either cavern, and I've just sent you off on a wild goose chase! 😆)

Edited March 26, 2021 by IRF

[crem]

Level 18, Software Projects version, no difference, score=1314 😞

I expected that there would be a difference, probably 1 frame, and not necessary an improvement.

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lvl18-sp.rzx

[IRF]

Oh well, thanks for trying.  As General Melchett said to Captain Blackadder, "We need a futile gesture at this point in the war." 😜

Looking at the video, it seems that most of the 'close shaves' with the vertical guardians occur when Willy is jumping over the guardians, not sneaking under them.  So in retrospect, perhaps the dangling tentacles aren't so much of a decisive factor after all.

Perhaps you'll have more joy in The Warehouse, where the SP guardians aren't as bulky as the BB ones?

[crem]

Level 17 "The Warehouse", Software Project edition

Score=1952, one frame improvement (and slightly different route)

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lvl17-sp.rzx

[IRF]

Yay! Well done, it was all worthwhile for that precious point!

[IRF]

I wonder would it work if you (or Norman, via his program) plugged that Warehouse route back in to the Bug-Byte version?

[Norman Sword]

Trying room 17 new play as listed above...In the BUG BYTE version.  Willy does not manage the first jump over the rotating  Harvester

Edited March 27, 2021 by Norman Sword
Clarification of terminology.

[IRF]

Hmmm, I'm not sure that the first jump over the leftmost harvester is the time-critical moment?

Crem, I seem to recall you saying that you awarded bonus points to the algorithm to make it collect the leftmost item first.  Could a similar thing be done to make it collect the top-right item last?  Then see if the algorithm follows the same route in the BB version as it did in the SP version, would it be able to match (or beat) the current maximum score?

(I'm saying all that like it's a trivial thing to do - it probably involves a great deal of work for both crem and his algorithm!  If so, feel free to ignore my musings!)