Heracleum Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) Hi there JSW/MM fans! I'm developing and about to complete "Manic Mission" a Manic Miner and Impossible Mission mashup, which inevitably contains JSW elements. It's not sequential like MM and you can navigate all rooms on a bigger map like JSW; you move around the map also using Elevator shafts like in Impossible mission and other IM elements are searching furniture pieces for puzzles/passwords useful to complete the game by combining puzzle pieces to form a random drawing to discover the final password. It's written in HTML5 so nothing to download/install/emulate, you can directly play the test version here: https://heracleum.org/games/manic-mission/test/ (do not use Firefox, it's too slow, I suggest Chrome) The game is basically complete, but I still need to create more rooms. The good thing is there's a built in Level Editor you can use to create and suggest your own rooms! The Editor is totally visual, you can create platforms, drag/drop move and copy blocks, set guardians' sprites, paths, visually assign targets to Switches and also (for the Impossible Mission side) set "furniture areas" where furniture pieces will randomly be assigned or remain just blank. Instead of getting keys or flashing items to unlock the door to next level, in Manic Mission flashing items are used to unlock/search furniture pieces. I'd be honoured to know what you guys think and would love to know if you're interested in creating a few rooms to add to the game. There will be virtually infinite rooms in each play, one could decide to play the "official game levels" or the "Community created levels" (this option is still ignored since I don't even have enough rooms -32- for the official levels). Anyway a full game is possible to play and complete, you will just see "Random Room (n)" as filler levels. It starts with a C64 palette and its sprite rendering but you can set both ZX Spectrum palette and Speccy rendering if you prefer. A few screenshots in the attachments. For easier collaboration, maybe draw a few blocks graphics or guardians sprite animation (there's plenty to add) and especially to send your -locally saved- rooms created with Level Editor here's the Manic Mission creators Discord link: https://discord.gg/RGHnvhXPbh Please let me know! Thank you! Edited March 7, 2021 by Heracleum added browser suggestions jetsetdanny, MtM, Sendy The Endless and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtM Posted March 7, 2021 Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 Hugely impressive, and welcome to the forum! It seems to run fairly slowly, is there any way to speed it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heracleum Posted March 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 @MtM Thanks! Slow: are you using Firefox? I noticed FF is remarkably slow (unplayable) on html canvas working with pixel rendering (and to emulate 8bit I need to do several clips and pixel data manipulation). It definitely runs smoothly on other browsers, I suggest using Chrome 👌 MtM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtM Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 10 hours ago, Heracleum said: @MtM Thanks! Slow: are you using Firefox? I noticed FF is remarkably slow (unplayable) on html canvas working with pixel rendering (and to emulate 8bit I need to do several clips and pixel data manipulation). It definitely runs smoothly on other browsers, I suggest using Chrome 👌 I am using Firefox, so you are right. Unfortunately, I do not use any other browsers at all (except Safari if I am using a Mac) so slow it is for me, apologies I should of said under Firefox when I posted originally. Any chance of any sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Sword Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 speed in browser on my pc. walking along the top from right to left the full width of the first room Chrome 8 sec Opera 8 sec Opera GX 8 sec CC browser 8 sec Microsoft Edge 8 sec Firefox 28 sec Brave 47 sec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heracleum Posted March 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Wow only 28 secs on Firefox? 😆 Thanks @Norman Sword Yes 8 seconds walking from side to side is the correct timing. Same on MS Edge browser. 2 hours ago, MtM said: Any chance of any sound? Ah yes that's actually another big missing chunk of the game, but yes I'm planning to add background adaptive music and a few sounds (possibly not too annoying though) ⁉ Curiosity about the mashup idea: would a die-hard JSW/MM fan find the Miner Willy saga mechanics blended together with another game (like Impossible Mission in this case) blasphemous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtM Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Heracleum said: Wow only 28 secs on Firefox? 😆 Thanks @Norman Sword Yes 8 seconds walking from side to side is the correct timing. Same on MS Edge browser. Ah yes that's actually another big missing chunk of the game, but yes I'm planning to add background adaptive music and a few sounds (possibly not too annoying though) ⁉ Curiosity about the mashup idea: would a die-hard JSW/MM fan find the Miner Willy saga mechanics blended together with another game (like Impossible Mission in this case) blasphemous? Not blasphemous at all in my personal opinion Heracleum. However, until it speeds up on FF I won't be able to play it much 😞 I think it is an excellent idea, I have the original C64 version of Impossible Mission sat on my shelves behind me, I never finished it, in truth if you are going to do _any_ sound at all on this, you really need to get the speech from Impossible Mission into the game. Not only the original speech, but a new version of the speech with a female voice that could be Maria berating Willy. Just my opinion anyway 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heracleum Posted March 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 hours ago, MtM said: really need to get the speech from Impossible Mission into the game. Not only the original speech, but a new version of the speech [..] Ahah yes there are some ideas on speech clips, apart the one every IM fan would expect once the first elevator is reached, with a little variation "Another miner.. stay a while, staaay forever!" BTW I see Mac users can install Chrome. Don't just do it for this silly game of course 🤭 but it might be useful for other things (HTML canvas is 'the new Flash', having a very performing canvas on our browser could come in handy). I've used Firefox as favourite browser for several years before 2010, then it just became too evident how Chrome was way superior to the rest. Even Microsoft recently decided to use the same base as Chrome (Edge Chromium). MtM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtM Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 Thanks for the heads up. In truth, it will be a cold day in hell before I install Chrome, so I guess I will have to live with a slow HTML canvas. I spend less and less time on the internet these days so I will live 🙂 But thanks again anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heracleum Posted March 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 Lol sorry I couldn't imagine Chrome could be that much hated and avoided 😂 BTW I installed Firefox to check if performance could be improved, I isolated the slowest part and it's (as expected) the "add block colours to underlying monochrome bitmap". I can't believe I should check redraw areas in a oh-so-small 256x192 portion, wth fifefox, why are you so darn slow rendering this little bunch of pixels.. I'll try optimising, especially since you seem the only one interested in trying this game 😅 (dies inside) Thank you very much 👍 jetsetdanny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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