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A further thought: The game allows the player to choose the starting room (among other things). It happens after the game has loaded; the selection cannot be modified after losing all lives or aborting the game. It occured to me that a solution to the problem described above would be to start in "I'm sure I've seen this before.." (room 15), collect the item there and then continue the game (without being able to return to this particular room) to complete it. However, when the starting point is set to that room, Willy emerges at the same coordinates as in "The Bathroom", i.e. at the floor level. In "I'm sure I've seen this before.." this effectively means he is trapped at the bottom, without being able to do anything meaningful and / or get out of this room...

I have tried to complete J. G. Harston's version of "JSW", which has some extra rooms, new technical features and minor edits of the original rooms and sprites. Sadly, I have found out that this version is impossible to complete in its current shape :( . There are 90 items to collect within the game. 89 can be collected. One item, though, is in the room "I'm sure I've seen this before..". This item cannot be collected, because the room is inaccessible. In the original "JSW", this room is located between "We must perform a Quirkafleeg" and "Rescue Esmerelda". However, in J. G. Harston's version the right exit from "We must perform a Quirkafleeg" leads straight to "Rescue Esmerelda", and, similarly, the left exit from "Rescue Esmerelda" leads straight to "We must perform a Quirkafleeg". So there is nothing between them, where "I'm sure I've seen this before.." should be. From what I can see by looking at the game in JSWED, the only room from which there is an exit leading to "I'm sure I've seen this before.." is "Up on the Battlements". However, it is the downwards exit - you would have to exit this room downwards in order to enter "I'm sure I've seen this before..", which is, of course, impossible. Therefore, the room "I'm sure I've seen this before.." cannot be reached (except for using the Writetyper cheat, I presume), the item located therein cannot be collected and hence the game cannot be completed without cheating. A question to Jonathan, then: Would you kindly release a bug-fix of your version of "JSW" and update your website accordingly? It would probably be a few minutes' job :) . In fact, modifying the value of these four addresses: #D0EA - should be changed from #0E to #0F (to change the rightward exit from "We must perform a Quirkafleeg" so that it leads to "I'm sure I've seen this before.."); #CEE9 - should be changed from #10 to #0F (to change the leftward exit from "Rescue Esmerelda" so that it leads to "I'm sure I've seen this before.."); #CFE9 - should be changed from #29 to #10 (to change the leftward exit of the currently inaccessible "I'm sure I've seen this before.." from leading to "The Attic" to lead to "We must perform a Quirkafleeg"); #CFEA - should be changed from #28 to #0E (to change the rightward exit of the currently inaccessible "I'm sure I've seen this before.." from leading to "Dr Jones will never believe this" to lead to "Rescue Esmerelda") will do the trick, I believe, and make the game completable. It would be nice if you could spare a few moments to do this :) .

Thanks, Ian! I have corrected the text by removing the comment about Willy being killed upon entry.

I am pleased to announce that JSW Central has been updated. The changes are: Chronology has been updated. Please let me know if you think anything is missing. The section of the main list of games which lists games using the JSW48 game engine has been divided into two subsections: "New games" and "Advanced modifications of the original JSW". "Jet Set Mini" has been included at No. 48 in the list of "New games". I had my reservations about it, but I decided to give it the status of a "new game", given the overall amount of changes which have been applied, including special effects (my reservations were due to the fact that visually it is not as radically different from the original as most of the "new games"). Three games have been listed as "Advanced modifications of the original JSW": "Jet Set Willy: The Nigthmare Edition", "Jet Set Mixup" and "Jet Set 40-40". Individual pages have been created for the four above-mentioned games. The first three feature full-blown screenshot galleries. In the case of "Jet Set 40-40", only a stub picture gallery is presented so as not to give spoilers (I intend to publish a full gallery once a year has passed since the release). A placeholder for a new section has been added in the main menu: "Minor mods of the original JSW". This section will list a selection of mods of the original "Jet Set Willy" which are not "modified enough" to be considered new games or "advanced modifications", but which are interesting for various reasons: because they feature new individual rooms, new sprites, new technical features, etc. Work on it will be my JSW priority in the near future. The "Scope and principles" section has been updated to reflect the recent changes. Please let me know if you have any comments or come across any problems with the website :).

Just as a curiosity: When I entered the site a few minutes ago I saw this sign: When I refreshed the page after taking the screenshot it worked fine, though, so everything's OK :).

Kweepa has announced the completion of a port of "Manic Miner" to the 16K VIC-20. The topic is on WoS, along with a video of the game being played. I am not familiar with the VIC-20, but it looks like he did a great job! :thumbsup:

Well, let's see. If I were to work on making an efficient RZX recording of "Mini" at this time, I would be doing it with the intention of submitting it to the RZX Archive, not just for the fun of it. My action would be result-oriented, and the desired result would be to have the recording hosted on the Archive. I wouldn't do it if you asked me not to submit it to the Archive yet, the release being too recent (less than a year ago). However, if I make the recording and let you know the completion time and you beat it (making a recording of your own), then it won't make sense to submit my recording to the RZX Archive any more, but rather yours. And I take it as a very serious possibility that you will beat my time :) . So, from this perspective, it doesn't make sense for me to make the recording now :o . Which is OK, I have plenty of other JSW-things to do, updating and expanding JSW Central being my top priority at the moment :).

OK. My idea, though, is that if I record an RZX walkthrough, it will be done in order to submit it to RZX Archive (now). If you'd rather I didn't submit such a recording at this time (so as not to provide any spoilers for people who were not involved with the project), that's fine, I don't mind giving "the outsiders" some more time to solve the mysteries of the game (I think that once a whole year has passed since the release, I won't have any qualms about it, because those who may have been interested will have had enough time to have a go at the game). If it is your preference not to submit the recording at this time, I will not be doing it for now. It can wait :).

OK, I *may* do it in the near future, but I'll see how things go.

Would it be OK if I recorded an improved walkthrough and submitted it to the RZX Archive?

There's a nice map by Pavel Pliva (Pavero) on https://maps.speccy.cz/. Would it not be a good idea to create a download of this file? I mean, in the Downloads section? (just wondering).

There's no recording of "Jet Set Mini" on the RZX Archive yet, AFAICT.

There's no recording of "Heaven and Hell" on the RZX Archive yet, AFAICT.

Ligan, Is there any chance you will gamma-release "Manic Miner Hard" in the near future? It would be nice to be able to add the game to the "official" list of gamma-released MM games on JSW Central :).

Thanks! :)

I believe that it is also possible to watch my walkthrough directly on YouTube, if someone doesn't want to bother with using an emulator. There are also walkthroughs on YouTube of other games called 'Jet Set Willy 3' (on other platforms). Have a look here, or here, or here.

Metalmickey: I am positive that since you've put so much work into the project already, one way or another we will figure out what the problem is (asking John Elliott for help as a last resort). For the time being, could you tell us which is the starting room (room number in JSWED)? If it's above 33 or so, try moving it to a lower number. Or just try setting the starting point to a safe location in room 00 or 01. Have you tried that by any chance? I am asking because I remember in the past there was a problem with starting rooms "above" a certain number. You could also send me the file (e.g. uploading it here in a new PM thread, if you want, or straight to my e-mail address visible here) and I would have a look at it to see if there is anything I can do about it :).

Well done, it sounds much closer to what it should :).

:)

It sounds like the RIP tune, which really is Chopin's Piano Sonata No. 2 in B-flat minor, Op. 35, popularly known as 'The Funeral March', isn't it? ;)

Someone's a fast worker... :)

Thanks for the explanation, Andrew! I'll try setting the colour to the proper black, perhaps. And it's always good to 'see' you here :).

I am extremely pleased to let you know that the problem has been solved TTBOMK :D . It nagged at me, and I couldn't help thinking about it. And so I tried searching on the internet for a possible solution (didn't find it), revised the Chrome updates to see what has changed between the versions that displayed the pages of JSW Central correctly and the current one (it didn't help), and then I installed Firefox Developer Edition and played with the "Inspect Element" function. And I just happened to come across the solution :). It was to delete "color: #0000;" from the properties of "body" in the template. I don't understand what the problem was (#0000 being the colour black, isn't it?), but the solution apparently works. I believe the page is displayed correctly in all major browsers now; certainly it is the case in Chrome and in Firefox, where previously the text didn't show :thumbsup: . Please let me know if you should notice any problems in any of the browsers.

Thanks, Andy! I'll look into it when I get down to working on JSW Central again, which will be once the current project discussed elsewhere is out the door.

I've just noticed that JSW Central isn't displayed correctly in Google Chrome. The "basic text" seems to be missing, with only the links displayed. The graphics are displayed partially, some do show, others don't. The site is displayed correctly in Edge and Internet Explorer AFAICT. I don't know about Firefox, because I don't have it installed on any of the computers I'm using, although I was told some time ago that it wasn't displayed correctly there (checking it is one of the things on my to do list). I've no idea where the problem with Chrome comes from. If anyone has any thoughts about it (and, especially, how to fix it), please let me know! :)